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Old 9th August 2013, 05:19 PM
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We will be arriving in Siem Reap in mid September and staying for 3 full days prior to departing to travel throughout Thailand and hopefully see Vietnam and Chiang Mai. We have 35 days before we depart back to the States out of Siem Reap.

Could anyone offer the best route to make the most of our time... should we try to go to Chiang Mai and Vietnam then travel throughout Thailand?

Best means of transportation from Siem Reap not Airplane... bus, train, water?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated - thank you for all replys and any additional places you may recommend.

Lynn
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Old 27th August 2013, 04:41 AM
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Best means of transportation from Siem Reap not Airplane... bus, train, water?

NO Train, NO water travel

Only way its by road to Poi Pet ( 2 hours by taxi) or bus.
from there head north to Northern Thailand
or south to Bangkok

1 day pass at Angkor is $20, hire a tuk tuk for $12-15/day, but if u go at 4:30 u can get in for a free sunset, visit the museum.
I suggest u stay for 4 days an get the 3 day pass ( $40) and than also visit Kampong Phluk ( the villages in the Tonle sap lake)

why are u not going to Phnom Penh?

i was just up there last month, plenty of shots here of the area.
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U do know that Vietnam is the opposite way to Thailand , right??
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Old 2nd September 2013, 04:59 PM
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So you have just over a month to travel around? That isn't a lot of time for "Thailand, Vietnam AND a bit of Cambodia." I think you should choose Thailand or Vietnam. Thought about Laos? It's very lovely.

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NO Train, NO water travel
The only railways are the goods trains from Phnom Penh to the port of Kamping Som (Sihanoukville) and the Bamboo Railway around Battambong. Nothing out of Siem Reap. But...

There are some boats that can offer a nice river journey south from Siem Reap to Battambong, among other places. The region just south of SR is the Tonle Sap lake. Lots of river travelling available around there.

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Only way its by road to Poi Pet ( 2 hours by taxi) or bus.
from there head north to Northern Thailand
or south to Bangkok
Close :) Bangkok is west from Poipet and north will take you up around Issan and up to Udon Thani, which is a lovely area.

Siem Reap is vey close to Laos. You can cross the border into Laos and visit a very beautilful area called Tsee Phan Don (4,000 islands).

Other than that, lovinarick is right and mostly in Cambodia you'll be travelling by bus from SR and I suggest you choose between Thailand and Vietnam.

If you want to travel to from SR to Chiang Mai, you'll need to bus across to Poipet (around 3+ hours), cross the border (30mins - 1 hour), train/bus to Bangkok (4-7 hours (I recommend train for the experience and it costs less than $2)), then another train up to Chiang Mai (12+ hours). I would strongly recommend that if you get the choice, you overnight on the Thai side of the border in Aranya Prathet as Poipet is a shithole. Some companies offer some all-inclusive tickets, but will be a bit more expensive and mean that you don't have to overnight (as one bus will be overnight), but it is also easier (and therefore less adventurous) for you.

Good luck!

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So you have just over a month to travel around? That isn't a lot of time for "Thailand, Vietnam AND a bit of Cambodia." I think you should choose Thailand or Vietnam. Thought about Laos? It's very lovely.



The only railways are the goods trains from Phnom Penh to the port of Kamping Som (Sihanoukville) and the Bamboo Railway around Battambong. Nothing out of Siem Reap. But...

There are some boats that can offer a nice river journey south from Siem Reap to Battambong, among other places. The region just south of SR is the Tonle Sap lake. Lots of river travelling available around there.



Close :) Bangkok is west from Poipet and north will take you up around Issan and up to Udon Thani, which is a lovely area.

Siem Reap is vey close to Laos. You can cross the border into Laos and visit a very beautilful area called Tsee Phan Don (4,000 islands).

Other than that, lovinarick is right and mostly in Cambodia you'll be travelling by bus from SR and I suggest you choose between Thailand and Vietnam.

If you want to travel to from SR to Chiang Mai, you'll need to bus across to Poipet (around 3+ hours), cross the border (30mins - 1 hour), train/bus to Bangkok (4-7 hours (I recommend train for the experience and it costs less than $2)), then another train up to Chiang Mai (12+ hours). I would strongly recommend that if you get the choice, you overnight on the Thai side of the border in Aranya Prathet as Poipet is a shithole. Some companies offer some all-inclusive tickets, but will be a bit more expensive and mean that you don't have to overnight (as one bus will be overnight), but it is also easier (and therefore less adventurous) for you.

Good luck!

1 month is plenty to see Laos, Cambodia and northern Thailand. But u will need to fly some places

divide it up,
10 days laos, ( luang Prabang, Phonsvan, Vientaine)
10 days northern Thailand ( Chaing Mai, Chiang Rai, Ma Hong Son)
10 days Cambodia (SR ( give urselve at least 4 days/nights there) an PP)

There is NO RR from shv to PP although they are rebuilding the RR between Battambang and PP for goods.

I don't call the 5 kms Bamboo RR trip a RR

SR to Laos?? only way is via Stung Treng an that will deliver you to south Laos, ( 4,000 islands is indeed nice) easier to exit north to Surin via the border at Osmach and than cross via Thailand

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SR to Chiang Mai, you'll need to bus across to Poipet (around 3+ hours), cross the border (30mins - 1 hour), train/bus to Bangkok (4-7 hours (I recommend train for the experience and it costs less than $2))
Sr to Poipet is 2-2/12 hours by bus or Taxi
Train Aran to Bangkok is 5 1/2 hours and cost 59 baht

Better, quicker and most likely cheaper ( when u add in taxis, trains, overnight accommodations and food along the way) from SR to Chaing Mai is to fly

If ur really set on train /bus than head from SR towards Poi Pet an take the road up toward Surn. From there its a 1 day bus to Ventaine laos, there travel by bus to Phonsavan-Luang Prabang- Luang Namtha- Chaing kong where u re-enter Thailand and than head south to Chiang Mai by bus

U get 15 days visa exempt via land borders for Thailand
and it will cost u $35 us for a laos visa and $20 for ur Cambodian visa

It would be very difficult to combine Vietnam with a trip to Chaing Mai without flying in that time frame u have
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Old 22nd September 2013, 02:15 PM
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There is NO RR from shv to PP although they are rebuilding the RR between Battambang and PP for goods.
Well, you can tell the owner of Toll Royal Railway that his company is a myth and he has no rolling stock. You can also tell my mate, an Englishman employed to maintain the trains and the railway, that he doesn't actually have a job and that his salary is imaginary Which must mean that the beers he bought me the other night were imaginary aswell! :(

12 April 2013: Toll Royal Railway commences train services Sihanoukville to Phnom Penh

They will eventually run the track up to Poipet but that won't be running for another year or 2.


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I don't call the 5 kms Bamboo RR trip a RR
I included it in my post because it's interesting for people visiting the country and runs on a train track (I was trying to be as concise with info as possible). Call it what you want.


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SR to Laos??
I said: "SR is close to Laos." I then offered Laos as an alternative to Thailand and Vietnam and mention 4,000 islands. The journey is easily doable in a day whichever route you take.


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$35 us for a laos visa
This depends on your nationality. I went to the Laos embassy here in Phnom Penh about a month back to get a tourist visa and was charged $50! (I'm British)

I agree with what you say about flying in terms of saving a lot of time. The OP is talking about a large area and doesn't have a lot of time for it. Flying would be the only way to cover all that distance in such a short amount of time.

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Old 23rd September 2013, 06:15 AM
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ok
when he mentioned trains I assumed he was referring to him traveling an he is not a container so let me clarify; there is NO passenger train service between SHV and Phnom Penh, (which you mentioned as well)

If u want see the bamboo train better head up soon, they just tore down the Pepsi factory and assume that the Bamboo rr will be next

The Embassy ripped you off, or did u use an agent??

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Visa on Arrival Fee

Below is a list of visa fee for different countries. If your country is not on the list, it probably costs you $US30 to get the visa or you're not eligible for getting Laos visa on arrival.
Country Price (US Dollar)
Australia 30
Canada 42
China 20
India 40
Sweden 31
USA 35
UK 35
Others 30
anyway to the OP:
30 days is too short a time to do all u wish to do by land travel. Pick 2 countries and see them and than u can always come back.

guess he has already come and gone thou. best of luck colonel
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Old 24th September 2013, 09:06 AM
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The Embassy ripped you off, or did u use an agent??
No agent; direct with the embassy. I got an official receipt also as I was fairly certain I was being ripped off. I doubt there's any point in pursuing it in such a corrupt region though.

They also charged me the usual $2 "overtime" charge to stamp me into the country. They did the same on the way back but changed it to a "stamp" fee lol. At $2 per person those immigration officals must be doing ok! (Was charged nothing by the Cambodian officials.)


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guess he has already come and gone thou. best of luck colonel
Thanks :) And to you too.
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