Looking for safe adult night outs - Page 4

BobMac · #31 (**permalink**) 2nd July 2009, 02:03 PM

It reminds me of a story about a famous artist who went to an art gallery where one of his paintings was on display. The painting was of a naked woman sitting on a bed putting on a pair of stockings and a man standing there half dressed. The painter asked a woman looking at the picture if she liked it, she replied it was a disgusting picture of a prostitute and her customer about to have sex. The painter replied, "Madam that is a portrait of a married couple getting dressed to go out and celebrate their wedding anniversary. Will you please take your filthy mind off my beautiful painting."

Roo-Ted · #32 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny B

When I mentionThai sex trade I don't just mean Thai girls.Next Bob you will be telling me the children are consenting to it all.Anyway I thank you for your informed reply ,but I have to say there is a lot of evidence out there to suggest that the billions of dollars that comes into Thailand is from Foriegn sex trade tourist's.It includes the Hotels takings ,bar takings tours etc.I don't know how they work the figures out but everyone seems to think The sex trade earns lots of overseas currency.On a different note what do you make of this little story.

Thanks for taking the time to write about your experience. It seems that everyone in the desperate bid for money has taken to using the highly potent and toxic drug for illect purposes in Bangkok.
50 dead white men to show for it in a 12 month period.
Our story.
My husband and I have been to Bangkok numerous times and never a problem. This last August he went for a overnight to drop of a necklace he had purchased for me that needed to be changed.
He got in late and the lobby bar was closed. He wanted a beer and went out.(MEN FIRST MISTAKE -NEVER GO OUT ALONE). The cabby took him to a neon go go bar. He repeated -look I just want a beer. So eaxi takes him to this little bar/poolhall. He sits down and has a beer. Like flies the whores came calling. My husband is a nice guy and simply stated he was there for a beer nothing else.
He had another beer and had pushed off three girls.
Next thing he says remembering was a feeling of disconnect. He said everything just got surreal. I do not know what drug would create that feeling or effect? He said the next morning he awoke in his hotel room and at first it all seemed somewhat normal except for a headache. He went about his errands and came back to the room. He said as he was walking the steps of the hotel -memories started to trickle into his mind of the night before. He said that a lot he is just unsure of. Like he does not remember gettting to the hotel by taxi. He does not remember going into the room. He does remember the girl who was with him taking a shower and fixing a drink and standing around looking out the window. He said he had sex with her. He does not understand how this possible. He stated to my family and friends as this all came to light that if he had wanted to have sex with someone other than me he would have done it in Amsterdam where it is safe and regulated . He makes no mistake that he commited adultery. But he swears to all that he was just sitting in the bar having a beer and then a while later he felt out of his body like a dissconnect from "all his reality"
. I know most people would say "oh he is making that BS up." But there is a little part of me that believes this girl got to his room and had sex with him in an effort to try and gain access to his room. He said he remembers asking her to leave four times. She acted like she did not understand English and she said she wanted to stay with him for his visit, etc. He finally put her on the outside of the door-against her will. He states that he barely made it to the bed before he "passed out".
The fear of Aids is so real for him that he flew back to the US within hours of recollecting the events-hence the battery of tests now for months. He feels that what he did was totally out of character and can not believe he did it. My question is what drug could do this? He did pass out and he did not remember anything for over 10 hours afterwards. He will be the first to say he can not believe it was him having sex with the girl- she was 10 years younger than his daughter. He is sick -I am sick and in the middle of dividing assests after 24 years of marriage.
Can anyone save this marriage? Is there a drug as he said made him dissconnect from himself? He said when he walked in the bar it was the guy I know, totally together, no desire for the stress of sex with a whore. Then he ends up here . We have now spent thousands on 6 doctor visits -tests-lawyers and tears that are priceless. Forget Christimas and by the way I would never spend another baht in Thailand for life.

To me this is just total b/s, why would anyone fly all the way from the USA to BKK for an overnight to change a necklace?
Why would anyone, if it is that late that the bar in the hotel is closed, and you just wanted a beer go and get a taxi to take him "to a bar" instead of looking for one close to the hotel or more likely just use the minibar in the room and possibly room service.
Why would it,even in the USA, costs thousands of dollars for 6 visits to a doctor with some blood tests.
TED

BobMac · #33 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 05:48 AM

Obviously the guy went out on the piss and ended up getting laid, woke up with a hooker in his bed the next morning and freaked about having unprotected sex. So he gives his missus this cock & bull story to try and save his own miserable hide.

Johnny B · #34 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 10:13 AM

You may be right Bob,but why would he tell his Mrs?all he had to do was say nothing,24 years married?There is lots of evidence to suggest drugs are being used .............providing we can believe what we are reading that is.

Johnny B · #35 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 10:18 AM

Going back to the picture and artist Bob! now if there had been a ping pong ball knocking around in the picture?.......what would we have thought then?lol! Most things are indeed open to interpretation.
There is a large list of posts on bangkok scams,all telling tales of being drugged some filmed, whilst drugged having sex.

Johnny B · #36 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 11:52 AM

Hi all what do you Guys reckon to this lot?the list is very long but here are a few.

report abuse.

Drugged twice
Written by John
Monday, 28 May 2007
Twice I've been drugged with coffee and robbed after going with a girl I didn't know. . Cost me a lot of money. Limit on withdrawal in Thai banks is 150,000 Bhat in one day. Scopolamine was used as a truth serum. Very powerful and debilitating. Police didn't take urine samples and actually accused me. "Posers." Tourist police were nice, but the whole thing was hopeless.

Comments (63)
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written by Owl, Wed 12 Sep 2007 00:14:06 CDT

Apparantly this really does happen. According to a Thai friend it's been reported a number of times in the newspapers.
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written by Old Falang, Sat 15 Sep 2007 10:24:58 CDT

I was here in 1984 for the first time. My first or second day in town someone drugged me unsuccessfully. As I am quite big the dosage of the medicine may not have been enough. Much to their surprise a few minutes after having the Pepsi or whatever I left the apartment which they had lured me to in Din Daeng. I went back to my hotel and eventually dozed off for about 24 hours. The guys that did it were Phillipino and a Malay they only pretended to be Thais. There were a lot of other scammers here then from other Asian countries. I guess they have run them out now.
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written by tj in Pattaya, Tue 18 Sep 2007 09:07:36 CDT

This one is as old as the hills; Liquid rohypnol (ampoule) was always the drug of choice; many of the Patpong Katoys (Lady Boys) & Pattaya freelancers used to get you to the room , they take a shower, then while you take a shower, they put the liquid on nipples etc, you start to lick etc and wham your out cold for up to 36 hours

This still Does happen in Pattaya, not a week goes by that an Indian is found by cleaning staff unconscious ….sadly in some cases Dead

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written by Tommy, Wed 26 Sep 2007 10:32:27 CDT

This happens on Khao Sarn Road as well. be careful of the old Gulliver's on the corner of Khao Sarn Road. I've been coming to the area for eight years. I found myself lost and confused 50 meters away from the guest house I've been going to for years. The girl I was with kept telling me she wanted money until I got rid of her. I'm a big guy as well( 195 cm 17 stone), so I suppose the dosage was not enough for me.

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written by Thomas, Tue 02 Oct 2007 22:19:18 CDT

I was ripped off by a girl. We went to a room and the next thing i know i took a nap. I opened my eyes and my cash was gone but cel phone was there. Thank good i did not have my passport. I knew i was gonna be wilh a questionable girl and left it at hotel. But I never thought id be drugged. - When I woke up she feigned stupid. she had NO money - she did not take. lol- She did not even have the $500 Baht I gave her.
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written by Statler & Waldorf, Sun 11 Nov 2007 03:18:16 CST

Well, I thought the limit on ATM was 25 k baht. But then I don't have Thai bank account and I don't want one. What I have observed is that 99% of all single male visitors do not need to be drugged to throw money at Thai girls. They just automatically do it. One thing I do not understand: How do you possibly take someone home you don't trust?
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written by newbie, Wed 21 Nov 2007 01:51:24 CST

I am taking my first trip to Thailand--hoping to visit Bangkok and Pattaya. I have been reading up on information and am concerned about getting scammed and maybe missing some of the "best stuff." A buddy of mine and I are going together--neither of us has been there before. Any advice?
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written by gos, Wed 21 Nov 2007 17:50:09 CST

Hi newbie
Where do I start a couple of scams the girls get up to:
They tell you they owe money to mamasan and show you a bank book with hardly anything in it mamasan will confirm this because if you pay it they will split it between them
Most of them will have another bank account where tom,dick, harry ,and
george etc are sending them money to stay out of the bars and stay faithfull to them LOL and the farm needs a new cow or you can buy half the family farm thats pretty clever because we are not allowed to own land in Thailand so the money goes straight in their pockets
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written by Mark, Sun 02 Dec 2007 07:40:44 CST

Hi,
My girlfriend and I just got back from Surin Beach where we are 99% sure we were drugged unsuccessfully by an older 'supposedly Australian' couple. They had very thick English accents and were about 50-60 years old. We were taken back to their house after some drinks at a local beach bar to a house they had just moved into again 'supposedly' a beautiful 2.2Million AUD place looking over Surin and another beach (forget its name). they made us some sandwhiches and gave us a beer while they showed us around, their empty place as they had just moved in so their furniture had not arrived, only old stuff the previous tenants had left. anyway we had some sandwiches and a glass of beer, and about 40 minutes later sitting outside looking over their amazing view chatting i felt a nasty rush through my whole body and the place started spinning, i panicked and got up quickly grabbing my girlfriend saying;we need to go now! i knew the feeling was not of alcohol as we are regular drinkers, and we tried to get out of the house but they kept stalling us offering more drinks and a lift home (which was a 2 minute walk it turns out and they claimed it was too far to walk!! as we were walking home my girlfriend went from reasonably sober to quite drunk and staggering, we just got in our front door and both passed out on the bed, only to wake up 10 hours later without waking once during the night. The more we read stories like above and on websites the more we realise we were drugged. so lookout if you head to Surin beach for an old english couple!!
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written by c.smith, Thu 06 Dec 2007 04:51:32

BobMac · #37 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 01:13 PM

"why would he tell his Mrs?all he had to do was say nothing" I suppose he had to say something as he would have been scared about being infected and passing it on, he'd need to wait a while for blood tests results and need to practise safe sex with missus, so she's want to know why.

As for the drugging stories - it really is shark-infested waters out there. Glad I'm in a happy relationship and I don't monkey around. A wild night out for us is a few bottles of Heineken and some Thai tucker in the night market. I'm usually in bed by 10PM.

Very disturbing to read about foreigners drugging other tourists. You may have your guard up with locals but you'd be more inclined to feel safer and relaxed with your own countrymen. Plus there's obviously a huge risk in bringing a lady of the night back to your hotel when your full of grog. I have heard about putting the drug on the nipples before, that's an old one that's been worked around the world for decades, probably centuries.

Johnny B · #38 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 03:45 PM

Hi all ,yes it probably is old hat as you say Bob glad I am like you really although some of the Thai Girls are very attractive it has to be said.I can understand a Guy getting involved when it's thrown at him, a spur of the moment decision,and bang your in trouble.The funniest one was the Guy drugged by a girl!well he thought it was a girl ,he woke up with a lady boy howling like a dog whilst having sex with him,and another lady boy stuck up the the 1st lady boy making cat like noises..........talk about laugh! The Guy woke up frighteneing to death ran to reception in the nude,and as he was telling the receptionist to ring the police the two Lady boys ran past the reception movie camera in hand.I was doubled up reading this,but it isn't funny for the Guy concerned.The good news for the Guy is he hasn't found any films on the net with him as the star.

markaa · #39 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 07:44 PM

Johnny
It had a buddhist monks orange background: the old forum.
I did not allow then and do not allow promotion of the sex industry, that is all. I did think about allowing the original post or not, but I did, oh well.

"The good news for the Guy is he hasn't found any films on the net with him as the star."
The bad news for the guy is he now is HIV positive.

markaa · #40 (**permalink**) 3rd July 2009, 08:04 PM

I actually posted this story on the old forum a few years back and got attacked for doing it; almost certainly by his little buddies.

A friend of mine in Phuket made a lot of cake with me on the Internet. He married his really nice Thai girlfriend. She was not the greatest looker but was pretty enough and 100%. My buddy always told me "You can not play the field here because everyone knows everybody"; he meant it as a warning, though I was not the one retrospectively who needed it. My buddy became an ex-buddy because we mixed business with pleasure, but I wished him well. My ex-buddy loved the bling; he had the rap-daddy all huge mother of gold neck braclets that made me gringe (secretly) and everyone knew him by it. Another very naughty buddy of mine came out from CA and paired up with him. They went and did the scene, viewing thing, at least that was all Mr. Bling planned. A few pharmacy available pills and cold bevvies later, and they decided to pick up on two bar hoes. Back they went to a quality hotel to rent a room each, and they did. My ex-buddy woke up 7am with his bling, wallet and 4x4 gone. He had to go and face his 8 month pregnant wife who expected him back 1am latest. No bling, no 4x4, no wallet, hmmm, she was right. She could have taken this prat for everything, but she forgave him; says plenty for her; as I said she was 100%.

I got barraged for telling this story on the basis it would identify Mr. Bling(less) - BS, it was all about friends and his pride.

My naughty buddy came back one night with someone I am sure was a kracktoy; he was staying at our house. I took a photo of his partner but some tosser lost my film at the developers. I wanted to send him these as a reminder of how sick he was the next morning; thoughts of photo images on his future wedding cake

We lived in a Muslim village, Kamala, and my buddy had to walk this thing to the main road to get a tuk tuk. I told him I had photos and he went from threats to despair. Luckily he never to my knowledge contracted anything and he is still a good buddy.

If all of that is cool, I am happy to wear round sun glasses.