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Old 25th June 2009, 09:57 AM
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maybe I am just lucky but I have not experienced any of these problems as of yet - apart from not being allowed to take on board a flight to HKT two bottles of Captain morgans bought in Amman - where there was an obvious scam as the attendants offered to buy it for a lot less than it was worth - needless to say I poured it away rather than acceed to the scam - it was legal - it was in duty free bag etc etc - BUT not allowed on domestic flight after going thru' customs and entering Thailand thru' BKK if I had put in hold luggage in BKK or been transit and entered Thailand in Phuket I would have been ok


It is not really a scam just the liquid limits rule!

Last year Thai workers at the xray machine tried to take my duty free off me because I was getting off an International flight and getting on a domestic flight,the bag was still sealed. I argued the point with an official and he allowed me to take it in the end.

But the lilquid limit aplies to Thai domestic travel so i should not have been allowed to take it onboard,it should have gone in my checked luggage.

In Australia we are lucky as you pick up your duty free after customs checks in "no mans" land and there are no more xray machines at the bording gates like some other countries.


I think you can loose your duty free in both Thailand and Bali as you purchase it before liquid limit and xray checks.? I wouldnt chance it anyway!

Again we are lucky enough to be able to purchase duty free at the airport on our return to Oz before we pass immigration,or before we leave for a trip and pick it up on the way back in.
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not a limit on liquid as I could have got on board with the same amount had I bought it in BKK airport - as they kept telling me - I was already through both customs and immigration where they were on full show all the time - and again at check in for flight to HKT - it was only when I got to the gate there was a problem - where I had no choice either give it up or or do not board - and there was no shortage of people wanting to buy it from the staff - I am afraid I got a but annoyed at this so I poured it away rather than let them benefit - anyone of the checkpoints I passed through could have told me to put it into my hold luggage and that there would be a problem - or is it just the staff trying to make a few baht ?
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Old 25th June 2009, 11:15 AM
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"I believe the VAST majority of Thais to be really great people. I believe MOST of the descending comments come from Thais who have been verbally abused by foreigners and / or are sick of seeing wealthy foreigners when they have so little."

Mark, I've heard this line of reasoning many times and don't go with it. For one thing it kinda puts the blame on us, it's our own faults if we get shafted. I believe the scource of the problem is anti-foreign propaganda that is thumped into Thais from day 1 - at school, on the TV & radio, in their papers. Thai governments never miss an opportunity to blame the foreigners for all their ills and spread suspicion. They hate Laotions & Burmese & Vietnamese, so what chance do Germans or Kiwis have? I think the most dispicable aspect of dual pricing used by Thai gov at national parks and historical sites is it send such a racist message to all the Thai people, including the children sitting in their parents' cars - it's OK to stick the foreigners, the tourists, it's OK, the gov do it. I'm always finding out I've paid a bit more for things, my wife buys a bottle of water from a store for 5Bt, they charge me 6Bt, I think they feel they're letting the team down if they don't charge the foreigner a bit more. And this line of reasoning comes down from the very top. Tourists are not viewed as guests to be made welcome in Thailand; they are viewed as targets.
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[quote=phil mcfc;11312]not a limit on liquid as I could have got on board with the same amount had I bought it in BKK airport - as they kept telling me - I was already through both customs and immigration where they were on full show all the time - and again at check in for flight to HKT - it was only when I got to the gate there was a problem - where I had no choice either give it up or or do not board - and there was no shortage of people wanting to buy it from the staff - I am afraid I got a but annoyed at this so I poured it away rather than let them benefit - anyone of the checkpoints I passed through could have told me to put it into my hold luggage and that there would be a problem - or is it just the staff trying to make a few baht ?[/QUOTE


That is what happened to me,I passed through customs and imigration in Phuket and walked round the corner to get my flight to Samui without leaving the airport.


Once you have passed through customs you are in Thailand so any domestic flight is just that and liquid limits apply!

Not too sure how it works when you are in transit though? Because 2 flights a week from Perth to BKK you have to get off at Phuket and clear customs then get back on the same plane to BKK,I presume you would have to leave the liquids onboard?Bobmac might know as last time I did that flight we bypassed Phuket because of bad weather.

Even in Australia you cannot get off an international flight and take your duty free booze on an immediate conecting domestic flight.

It is left up to the passenger to look up how the liquid limit works.

Info is usualy given by airlines but they do not tell you to put excess liquids in your checked luggage,only the amount you can take onboard as part of carry on.
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I only ran into this liquids business once leaving BKK for Perth, I has several small bottles of Mekhong whisky in my hand luggage that I was going to give to friends and the Thai staff happily took them away from me at check in, they even took an opened bottle of drinking water I had in my hand. Since then I haven't had an fluids in hand luggage, but do put cans of Singha beer & bottles of Mekhong in my luggage that I don't carry by hand.
But honestly I rarely see the need for buying duty free grog anywhere. If you're coming into Thailand why bother, you can buy spirits cheaper at the liquor sections of Tescos and other such places. Same goes for smokes. Wine of course is far more expensive and it's worth bringing some. Even flying back to Perth I don't see a great diff in what a bottle of spirits costs in duty free shops compared to what you pay in liquor stores outside when there are specials, usually there's only a couple dollars diff.
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I only ran into this liquids business once leaving BKK for Perth, I has several small bottles of Mekhong whisky in my hand luggage that I was going to give to friends and the Thai staff happily took them away from me at check in, they even took an opened bottle of drinking water I had in my hand. Since then I haven't had an fluids in hand luggage, but do put cans of Singha beer & bottles of Mekhong in my luggage that I don't carry by hand.
But honestly I rarely see the need for buying duty free grog anywhere. If you're coming into Thailand why bother, you can buy spirits cheaper at the liquor sections of Tescos and other such places. Same goes for smokes. Wine of course is far more expensive and it's worth bringing some. Even flying back to Perth I don't see a great diff in what a bottle of spirits costs in duty free shops compared to what you pay in liquor stores outside when there are specials, usually there's only a couple dollars diff.

I think the major benefit of the duty free is that they are mostly 1 litre or 1.125 lt bottles in duty free as against 700/750 ml in liquor stores with the added benefit of a couple of $ off the price.
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Thanks for the information,I have been to Thailand twice now and enjoyed both trips.No problems at immigration on either visit.I can't help thinking you seem to have an agenda with regard to Thailand,you suggest Thailand should be avoided and point us all in the direction of Malaysia.When I consider how I saw lots of old white men over in Thailand who's only interest is exploiting young Thai girls for sexual favours,I am not suprised the Thai's have developed a low opinion of us.The Thai people have little money and are easy prey for these low life sex tourists.I should imagine the Thai people are just about sick of seeing all the child prostitution of young boys in Pattaya,coupled with the same abuse metered out to the young girls.Thailand is a beautifull place and it's people are among the nicest I have met in the world.It's time our governments stopped the sex trade for good and let these people develop a proper tourist trade,based on genuine tourism and not the sleazy sex trade.I feel sorry for these people who have been robbed by customs at Thailand,but they should not have been over allowance and they should have made a stand against the customs officers.I am sure they would have backed down when faced with a stern no! I am not paying all that money,I want to speak to your superior.Also the later post relating to rogue taxi's at Krabi,everyone knows you use licensed cabs in Thailand,or get what you rightly deserve.You seem to be turning this forum into an anti Thailand forum,and even offer Malaysia as an alternative destination.
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Thanks for the information,I have been to Thailand twice now and enjoyed both trips.No problems at immigration on either visit.I can't help thinking you seem to have an agenda with regard to Thailand,you suggest Thailand should be avoided and point us all in the direction of Malaysia.When I consider how I saw lots of old white men over in Thailand who's only interest is exploiting young Thai girls for sexual favours,I am not suprised the Thai's have developed a low opinion of us.The Thai people have little money and are easy prey for these low life sex tourists.I should imagine the Thai people are just about sick of seeing all the child prostitution of young boys in Pattaya,coupled with the same abuse metered out to the young girls.Thailand is a beautifull place and it's people are among the nicest I have met in the world.It's time our governments stopped the sex trade for good and let these people develop a proper tourist trade,based on genuine tourism and not the sleazy sex trade.I feel sorry for these people who have been robbed by customs at Thailand,but they should not have been over allowance and they should have made a stand against the customs officers.I am sure they would have backed down when faced with a stern no! I am not paying all that money,I want to speak to your superior.Also the later post relating to rogue taxi's at Krabi,everyone knows you use licensed cabs in Thailand,or get what you rightly deserve.You seem to be turning this forum into an anti Thailand forum,and even offer Malaysia as an alternative destination.
I am not advising Malaysia as I have never been - nor am I anti Thai - I love the place - but to say that its the holiday makers fault they get ripped off is a wee bit unfair - most people coming from the west would expect the authorities to be at the very least reasonably honest - how does someone who has arrived for the first time in a Thai airport distinguish from the honest taxi driver and those who are there to rip you off ? As far as the sex trade goes its on offer so people come for that reason the only way you get rid is if those same authorities clamp down - but as they get kick backs its not going to happen - Far from this forum (and I am only new to it myself) being anti thai I think if you reread you will find most authors like the place and believe the majority of Thais to be honest and very nice - they are sad that they hear tales like the above and even appolagise for bringing them to your attention - At least people travelling to Thailand will be forewarned by sites like this and maybe they can avoid the same problems by reading before leaving - I for one as a veteren of Thailand am glad of the info so I can avoid the pitfalls - which in turn allows me to promote a better vision of the place because of it - I think you post is a little harsh on those trying to help others
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I'm afraid truth is truth. If my own brother told me he was thinking of retiring and buying a home in Thailand I would tell him DO NOT. I would tell him to consider Malaysia first. You should be grateful there are people on this forum who have long experience with Thailand and are honest enough to point out the pitfalls.
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I wonder whether this is just Thailand or a sympton of a worldwide ill?

PS I still do not hold to the conjecture that Thais are educated to be anti-western; I believe they rise above any such indoctrine anyway. We are indoctrinated into believing a) we are superior and b) our leaders are above reproach in the west; do we adopt that conjecture?

PPS I was considering buying a house myself in Malaysia at some stage but based on what a couple of Malay friends have said (nothing near as bad as Thailand or Indonesia), I think I'll take a rain check on that one. Hopefully Malaysia will not go down the same roads as they!
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