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Mark I have a friend who want's me to help him rent a house at Jimbaran. Can I advertise that here or not ?

Maybe a link to photos and an email link to him ?
Thanks for the email.

If his villa is legal, he can put a free link on the directory page (but not an ad on the forums please). Also if he has an Indonesian operational license for his villa, get him to join Better Hotels, Villas & Tourism for Bali & Thailand

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I don't know about operational license as it is a private home with six or seven detached bungalows and he wants to rent it out for 2 years or more. I will get him to register and add it to the site himself.
This is the guy who ran the NGO I worked for on Lombok and did the litigation against Newmont Gold on behalf of the Masyarakat Lombok Timor and Sumbawa Besar. Of course Newmont won eh ? they had a little more funding which of course was easy in the pasar they call courts of NTB

Oh really, yes, isn't the Newmont thing still going on with allegations of judicial corruption (as if there was any other kind of judiciary in Indonesia)? I thought the Newmont deal was something to do with Sulawesi though?

It may be a problem for TravelEthos as it deals with holiday related things, not house lets. I do not know what the situation is regarding renting a house out for long term let is in Indo. But I guess it must be different so if he wants to list it here in the directory section, no problem

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I'm not sure Mark what is going on with that case now but it was originally dismissed as a "wrongful litigation" ???? and we didn't have the funds to continue the fight against their wealth and monitary influence as we conducted the case pro bono. The case was over a promise/contract regarding compensation over damage to fishing and the environmental damage that the Newmont Gold mine on Sumbawa did and it's imediate effect on the people of Sumbawa and Lombok Timor.
BTW The Australian election has been a landslide win for the Labor party with the Greens party getting a couple of saets as well. Troops out of Iraq, Kyoto ratified and Industrial Relations draconian laws repealed immediately and most likely a little less kow-towing to SBY

Hey ? "Travel Forum Virgin" ? really Mark I'm touched.

I heard about it where the Newmont executive for Indonesia claimed all the lies had been put to rest; that is where the kids in the affected area have all sorts of weird things growing on their bodies now because of mercury or something poisoning? Just like Suharto claimed he was proven innocent in the case against Time Magazine until 2 days later the UN put him at the top of their most wanted list for corruption (oooops).

Glad Howard is out though, really, well done Australia. Funny how certain Aussie papers were saying it was neck and neck right up to the wire; guess that was "wishful" thinking. God help the Brits when it comes to election time though. Still, at least we can vote in real elections, we just have to get past the mind implants as to who we should vote for. As someone that hates English sausages, thinks the Euro is a Godsend, likes his ice cream to have milk not vegetable fat in it and does not really care if he has a pint or the rough equivalent in litres of beer, plus does not believe these things are attempts by Brussels to take England's heritage way (watch out for UKIP and Tory snipers), you might gather I am just a tad pro-EU


Hopefully this will actually equate in some benefit regarding tourism to Bali and for the Balinese as well. I truly think it is time western countries, especially Australia, get tough with Jakarta, including about how so many of their citizens were sold, sold, sold land and villas in Bali they can never truly own and now are facing massive "fines", tax claims (I saw one report claiming it was 50% of the villa value - but what has tax to do with getting an operational permit - it is the other way around surely - get the permit, then calculate the tax) and even closures. I truly believe the pandering done unto Jakarta has made Bali less of a paradise for tourists and less of a decent home for the Balinese. So let us hope there is some change of view from Canberra that has a positive affect on Bali, and Lombok, for sure.

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Well the latest news is that Peter Costello has decided he does not want to be the leader of the opposition nor deputy leader and he will retire from politics at the end of his next 3 year stint in opposition.
Kevin Rudd just gave a press conference and mentioned that SBY was the first to call and congratulate him last night and invite him to Bali for the climate convention on Bali.
Mark I don't think Bali or the Balinese will ever be the same as before the great tourist boom and when Legian was just paddy. Lombok may be OK if the Balinese stop dissuading the eco tourists from going there which they do an a regular basis. I urge all not to listen to the predjuical views of the Balinese toward Lombok and go there as there are many there who depend on tourism and they are suffering very badly at the moment due to Senggigi being a ghost town because of the lack of people visiting. Please help in promoting Lombok as it is the Bali of old and retains the culture and tropical beauty that has disappeared from Bali.
I don't know what the Australian Gov' can do about the land and villa rip offs happening mate it's really up to the Indonesian Gov' to fix their corruption problems especially in customs, immigration and BKPM along with the land and housing ownership laws.

I don't know about operational Licences because it is his own private home with some bungalows as well and he just wants to rent it out.
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It looks very much like a private house which would be outside the law renting it to tourists, so I can not allow it in the directory (and it would have problems being accepted in Travel Ethos), sorry. That is not saying I agree with the law in Indonesia regarding foreign ownership and rental of holiday homes, I absolutely do not, especially as most foreigners that have invested into property there were defrauded by the sales agent and the Balinese authorities / Indonesian government for allowing it to happen again and again and again. It is a joke that foreigners come to Bali and as soon as they land see advertisments for land and villas for sale as "investment opportunities" and "freehold" when they can neither own the land, the building or indeed legally rent the property out (as this would require Indonesian citizens to own the property). I believe in most countries you can own a house and rent it out to whoever you choose as long as you declare the earnings on your income tax. For Indonesia to deny foreign ownership of property, to insist rental properties are hotels and therefore require hotel operational licenses, and then sit there and watch the crooks sell worthless bits of paper to foreigners who believe they are buying into some dream not a nightmare is state fraud IMHO, as the only reason they do it is a) to unlawfully gain foreign currency and b) to set foreigners up as extortion targets. But that is the way it is and I can not unfortunately be apart of unlawful activity covered as I am by the laws of the EU, not those bent suits of questionable lineage in Jakarta and Denpasar.

I wish I had made it to Lombok; I never did, I always ran out of time, and now I regret it. I particularly would have liked to go to the Gilis and is it Kuta (not the Kuta in Bali) that is at the other end of the island with superb beaches? I did not know the (certain) Balinese derided Lombok and all I can say is shame on them; I somehow doubt the everyday Balinese do this though, surely?

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